Language

[Trueshot]

Anyone know what those Warcraft Orc voices mean?

Like:
Zugzug
Glob'char
Gla'duk

Guess they mean 'allright' or something like that, but perhaps someone has a link with an extended list?

edit:
doh, it's getting late. http://www.shadowclan.org/worldofwarcraft/reference.php has a nice list. Although i guess it's just the standard Warcraft voices extended with shadowclan language (thought perhaps blizzard published an extended list somewhere).

Me gu nap.

[Tragash]

These are the only useful words that actually fit into the World of Warcraft fiction:

Throm'ka - hello (formal, respectful)
Dabu - yes, with pleasure (obedient, respectful)
Zugzug - yes, if I have to (obedient, respectful)
Lok'tar - get ready, pay attention (and stop talking!)
Lok'tar Ogar! - get ready for glorious battle

All the other words are derived from the black speech and therefor not suitable for WoW, in my eyes.

The question is if we want to copy Shadowclan or if we want to try to create our own style of roleplay. Personally, I prefer the latter. ;)

I think it would be dumb to run around saying "Wut im blah? Me nub gruk!" when all the NPC orcs are able to speak proper english.

[WaThumb]

BAH NPC Orcs, just dumb servants which did not know anything. They are not worth knowing or even speak our language. ;)

I dont want to speak Oxford english ingame. Would destroy the atmosphere for me completly. Maybe we use the available basic words and forbear from juggeling with the other words.

[Krag]

I'd go with the fact orcs have the ability to speak Hordish Common (English), but when excited or scared sometimes use slip into their own language (black speech based orcish).

Being capable of speaking common doesn't mean you have to.

wat lat ull say tu dat?

bud den me will be un da pee vee pee serbur nub wiv yu ull.


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Krag
whu det da ugre admun da foroms?

[Tragash]

Well, we could try to develop some special "slang", but it shouldn't be as strong as black speech.

Didn't you guys play Warcraft II or Warcraft III? I don't think that black speech is a criteria for orc roleplay. We should rather try to incorporate certain phrases into our sentences...

I mean, using black speech in WoW would be like roleplaying a jedi in the game. It's probably good roleplay, but it simply doesn't fit...

[UntrainedMonkey]

One of the the things I liked when I played WoW beta is that each character automatically had two language skills - their racial language and a common language depending on whether they are Horde or Alliance - which you can switch between.

To me this removes the need to use either 'black speech' or add 'flavour' when taking to other orcs as they should automatically understand you... (Unless of course you've got an orc with a lisp or overly large teeth ;))

My tuppence worth...

[Martinus]

Still, using Yub, Nab, and various mispellings like that can be fun nonetheless. :)

[UntrainedMonkey]

Always been a big fan of "dabu" and "zugzug" - they're part of Warcraft's charm for me - and will be slipping them in occasionally.

Itz just dat typin like dis all der time, hurtz my hed and me find it hard to keep up fer long time!

[Krag]

Prakteec maykd purfeckt
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Krag
whu det da ugre admun da foroms?

[Tragash]

Well, I hope we all use the /yes and /no voice emotes anyway... ;)

We need to gather more information about the orc language in Warcraft. Does anyone still have Warcraft II or III? I'm sure there are quite a few phrases we could use...

[Trueshot]

Aka'Magosh - WC3 Frozen Throne

Said by Mogrin the orc right before he died to a hunter that swore to finish the orc's task for him. Must mean something like "thank you with all your heart" or "you do me great honor".

[Tragash]

Thanks for that input!

Right now, it looks as if the general blah within the clan will be a mixture of common speech and black speech.

It's not:
I need more practice before I can do that. Aye?
or:
Me need mur praktiz befur me kan du dat. Yub?
but it is:
Me need more practice before me can do dat. Dabuu?

By the way, yesterday I met a troll who said things like "You need help, mon?" It was cool roleplay and I'm sure he was within an orc guild in another game. His language was Warcraft specific, but still archaic, exactly like ours should be like. So I would favour the "a bit of both worlds" approach when it comes to our language...

[Branko]

After watching a number of the old warcraft 3 movies and cut scenes I've noticed that the orcs in warcraft (appart from orcish expressions like "dabu" and "lok tar ogar") speak something pretty close to common english, if yet with deep and guttural voices. This is pretty far from the kind of language ("Okee, den we go klomp dem kolkars hard like rocks, lats") I've been using this far in the game. I don't know about all the rest of you, but I think perhaps it would go better with the setting if we tried to tone down the cruder parts of our language (and especially the Tolkien black speech parts).

[Martinus]

I am fine with both. Crude blah is funnier, but makes the orc look kinda stupid, which is probably not the good side effect (especially for those of us, like Mauuk, who are supposed to have a rather high Intellect) ;)

[Martinus]

Just for the record, the two trolls and a tauren we met at the Crossroads yesterday were Viconius, Pat Hawkeye and Waceriel (for people who know them from other games) ;)

[Martinus]

Ok, so looking at the basic dictionary from the site referrenced above, we use all Warcraft specific words, i.e.:

Throm'ka hello (formal, respectful)
Dabu yes, with pleasure (obedient, respectful)
Zugzug yes, if I have to (obedient, respectful)
Lok'tar get ready, pay attention (and stop talking!)
Lok'tar Ogar! get ready for glorious battle

and for the other words:

Ug hello - likely yes, although Throm'ka can also be used
Gug'ye goodbye - ok
Yub yes - should be replaced with Dabu (?)
Nub no - dunno here - do we say "no" normally, or use nub?
Me me, myself, I - orcs in Warcraft seem to use "I" (i.e. proper English form) - let's decide
Lat you - orcs in Warcraft do not seem to use it at all, drop it then?
Hoowah! hoorah! - can stay I guess
Skah! *exclamation of contempt* - likewise
Har! ha ha - ditto
Rulg thanks - ditto (?)
Blah talk - don't use it I guess
Gruk understand - don't use it (?)

Discuss :)

[Solmyr]

Just as input from a potential member, I generally suck at interpreting messed up languages, so hopefully weird orcish talk won't be a requirement. ;-) I can do a few orcish words slipped into sentences here and there, but extensive mangling of phrases is too much for me. :P

[WaThumb]

Ok for me, I have to struggle but ok.
What about numbers and counting? An "ash" or "dub" will often slipp out of me.