The Horde on a Roleplaying Server

[Tragash]

Hiya!

I've followed the discussion about picking a server to play on and I'm surprised that people even consider moving to a PvE or PvP server when there are RP servers available.

I've been in the beta for a while now and together with some friends we're going to try to establish a roleplaying community like on Europa shard in Ultima Online in the good old days. Seeing how so many veterans from back then are on this board, I'm surprised that there hasn't been much progress in establishing a roleplaying community in World of Warcraft yet.

Now, for me, one thing is for sure - the community has to be established on a roleplaying server. I don't know about you guys, but if I have the choice between "normal" gameplay, between PvP (aka "high level character slaughter low level ones") and RP servers, I choose the latter.

Why? Those of you who remember me probably know that I'm not afraid of PvP, but what's the point in PvP if it's ABSOLUTELY level based? Horde versus Alliance PvP will be fun, but I doubt that many of you want to be ganked repeatedly by KiLlAdUdE and DaMaschInE while you're dungeon crawling.

Now that brings me to the most important point in favour of a RP server. The names. I say it again. THE NAMES. Forget about PvP, forget about lewt, forget about atmosphere - when the only people you are able to interact with are called Einzweidrei, Kilhatroll, HoNeYgIrL, BillGatesSukz or TheUltimateWarrior, you wont be able to enjoy the game.

I'll pick an english RP server to play on and a few friends will hopefully follow. A second server to play Alliance characters on would be great to, but that depends on the size of the community of roleplayers... playing a Nightelf with Elveng could be amusing though. ;)

Whatever happens, I hope that there will be a strong roleplaying community on the european WoW servers. And I hope that there will be as many "RP veterans" as possible banded together on one server instead of being scattered all over the place.

[Trueshot]

In theory almost all the names you mention are against the global naming policy, but ofcourse should be a lot better enforced on RP servers.

Still undecided here, but have experienced quite some PvP on normal PvE servers.

[Thorin]

It'll be a true testament as to how many RPers really value community over PvP fun. In the end days of Europa community I think about 80% of RPers ended up running around in underwear and capes Corp Poring faction enemies.

I completely agree with you, community is primary but WoW is not the kind of game that would be very RP friendly. So I think beside some thee's and thou's and an occasional inn meeting, most of the gang will be off with their 'alts' plundering the steppes of war.

So I'm gonna be happy for any fragment of RP I'm gonna get, thank the lord for it and then moasy on to the next quest destination.

[Tragash]

Well, if I catch anyone within the Horde using thee's and thou's he's going to get a serious beating!

I've been playing on a PvP server recently and it usually boils down to high level characters killing low level characters in battle zones or by provoking them even in newbie areas. So no matter where you go, PvP or RP server, the chances that you can get rid off an annoying thug is small.

In my eyes there is alot of RP potential in WoW, but it depends on a good idea and a concept that is backed up by the community. I would play in an orc or orc'n trolls guild only, it would bring people closer together, or heck, even an all dwarves guild would work for me. Diversity is good, but it kills the spirit of "being in the same boat".

Oh, just that you know, Shadowclan is doing an all Orc guild and they have way over a hundred members although Orcs don't have a priest class. It's doable.

Let's just try to be on the same server and let's work together. It doesn't make sense to have a dozen paladin guilds if one would work as well. It doesn't make sense to have three undead guilds if one would work as well.

Let's work together.

[Eefin]

Sounds very good.

Maybe we could all gather on the same RP server, and then arrange horde vs alliance battles like in the good'ol UO days, aswell.
Wouldnt that be something?

One guild for alliance and one for horde - under one server?

[Tragash]

PvP in WoW is pointless... and you can bet that you wont get to interact much except for PvP if we have both Horde and Alliance guilds on one server. Check out the specific rules of WoW to see how limited interaction between "factions" will be.

I'd prefer a community for both sides on two servers so people can interact with fellow roleplayers no matter what side they choose.

A roleplaying community in WoW simply can't be as strong and immersive as in Ultima Online, but it's still good to play with friends. ;) I don't expect much, but heck, it's worth a try to gather people on one and the same server, at least!

[Thorin]

That's what i was thinking. Horde vs. Allies, RP style. You know, jumping the tavern, knights rushing out, mages summoning forth their minions, the horde rushing with their warcry... like in Deepwater,...

only in WoW we have no housing, we have no overhead text display (seeing WAARGH! in chat window isn't as intimidating and lifelike)...
but it'd be worth a shot. I love that people are enthusiastic about it, but i've seen RPing in DAoC and let me tell you, it was meetings and after meetings a division of groups by level who went xp hunting in different directions.

[Viconius]

I will be on RP server. There is one from begining, I do hope.
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Viconius
traveller@rper.org

[Sgt Vimes]

>Sounds very good.
>
>Maybe we could all gather on the same RP server, and then
>arrange horde vs alliance battles like in the good'ol UO days,
>aswell.
>Wouldnt that be something?
>
>One guild for alliance and one for horde - under one server?
>

My main Char will be on a RP server, I think you are on the right track here.. It would great if we could have Alliance Vs Horde RP-style.. And if we decide on going RP then those who want to be Horde can be horde and the ones that wants to be Alliance can be that, this can result in making our community even bigger, we can recruit other roleplayers from both camps by doing this..

The PvP battles i have taken part of in the beta simply aint fun, and it wears off pretty quick.

All these choises are making me crazy, i have decided to go for the RP server but now i dont know wich class i will play :P, i like my Warrior but im thinking about going with a Rouge instead. <Insert loud scream here>.

[Martinus]

I agree with your points and I am going to play on a RP server myself.

I also think there is a great potential for RP in WoW, as long as you create a community that has IC reasons to talk about stuff other than just killing monsters and getting loot - so stuff like an orc-only (or mostly) clan, a guild of gnome engineers, or a coven of warlocks (on either side) would imo work well.

Oh, and to introduce myself (should have started with it, I guess), I'm a player from the NWN server Battledale, where Viconius is a DM - so if I do anything wrong, blame him. ;)

[Krag]

I think we've all been meaning the RP server when we say PvE server. The RP server being a PvE server with additional naming policy stuff.

WoW is a PvP game, and yes you can find PvP on a PvE server, as I have stated before, all the PvP I've done this far was on a PvE server. However it feels very artificial, very trammelised.

PvP is not absolutely Level based either, I killed a level 22 human paladin with my level 12 Tauren warrior. Sure he was already wounded and it wasn't a fair fight, but then it is war and there is no such thing as a fair fight.

As servers progress and more people learn about things as the worlddefense channel I think you'll see less people griefing in newbie areas, of course its impossible to actually grief in the newbie areas unless the newbies are foolish enough to attack. Something they will soon learn...

I'm sticking to my plan of an Orc on a PvP server and joining up with Alliance bods on a PvE/RP server and will play more on the one I enjoy most.

As you can have both Alliance and Horde chars on an RP server we only need to decide on one (if there is more than one at release) for everyone.


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Krag
whu det da ugre admun da foroms?

[Tragash]

I thought there was a level cap on ordinary servers if you play on both sides? Something like "If you have a level 20+ character on one side you can't level any character on the other sider higher than to level 20" or so.

Since people can't even TALK to each other due to the language barriers they have introduced, I still see no reason to have both sides on one server. I doubt that there is alot of interaction between Horde and Alliance members, most roleplay will take place among friends and guild members.

Then again, if there is only one english roleplaying server at the beginning I could understand why people from both sides want to play there.

From my point of view, I don't mind as long as alot of orc players join the server I'll be on (or vice versa)! ;)

[WaThumb]

Ug,

nice to see that the old crew still sticks together.

I too spend the last three weeks in WoW Beta and played an Orc Warrior. Made it to Lvl 24 till now and like what I have seen so far. So I will pick up my Collectors Edition on Friday and would like to join you.

So for the descion about a PvP or PvE I would prefer a PvP server. As you see PvE did not mean "no PvP" it will just limit our ability to defend our territory, but I want to clomp these dumb Allies out of Crossroads whenever they show up.

PvP in your own territory is only possible if you want to. If you are dumb enough to attack a group or a "??-Level" Player..well.

Traveling into the fight-zones, where PvP is active gave me the good old feeling of the early UO. Looking around every corner and behind you, holding your breath when you see something red in the distance, runing when you see that it is a group or a "??". This is something that enforces to be part of a group like we intend to be.

So as soon as there is a server list, let us agree on one and start the fun.
Scan your ICQ contacts, I guess we can find a lot of old friends showing up. Would be bad to find them after some weeks/months on the wrong server.

Urkda,
Wa

[Krag]

Level limit might be true, dunno. Not something I've read about but it's possible.

However the main thing being only one RP server at release (which is an unknown atm).


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Krag
whu det da ugre admun da foroms?

[Krag]

>So for the descion about a PvP or PvE I would prefer a PvP
>server. As you see PvE did not mean "no PvP" it will just
>limit our ability to defend our territory, but I want to clomp
>these dumb Allies out of Crossroads whenever they show up.
>
>PvP in your own territory is only possible if you want to. If
>you are dumb enough to attack a group or a "??-Level"
>Player..well.
>
>Traveling into the fight-zones, where PvP is active gave me
>the good old feeling of the early UO. Looking around every
>corner and behind you, holding your breath when you see
>something red in the distance, runing when you see that it is
>a group or a "??". This is something that enforces to be part
>of a group like we intend to be.

Couldn't agree more!

Uz clomp dem smellie hummies!

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Krag
whu det da ugre admun da foroms?

[ratdeath]

Me agree too!!

I will go PvP server, thats for sure, although Tragash has a few
valid points about the atmosphere on such a server I prefer not to
have some invisible rules in the way for my clomping.

My goal so far has been, PvP Server, Horde and I am 99% sure I will
play a Undead Warlock, will try to keep an open mind to what kind of
communities will form on the server I choose.

//Zur'Goth

[Tragash]

So let's play Horde characters on a PvP server and Alliance characters on a RP server? Hmm, that could work...